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Prabir Ghosh
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Dear Prabirda,
aapnara to astrologer der cheating dhoren…narayan chakraborty, agarpara thake,astrology kore, abar tantrik o,eke ektu dekhun na er bujruki jodi dhorte paren…amader karo nam neben na karon aamra agarpara thaki…narayan 12 class pass..duniyar loker bhagya bole dichhe..er bhagya ta aapnara ektu dekhe din na…vison chalak kintu…10000/15000 taka ney maha mritunjoy kwabach/dhanada /kalsarpa/etc nana kwabach kore…eguli te ki satti kaj dey…astrology korte gele ki besi parasuna korar darkar pore na..aapnara ki bolen…?
parle ektu dekhun…
Dear Mr. Ghosh
Can you please define rationality. There exists something beyond science. Just because “science” cannot verify the existence of paranormal activities does not mean that they are not there. Yes, there are many fake babas, sadhus, tantriks etc. but paranormal events like ghosts, ghost possessions etc. are not unreal. Just because I cannot see TV or radio signals with my eyes does it mean they don’t exist. I require a instrument tuned to these signals and get them converted to visuals and sound so that their presence is verified by viewing or hearing the brodcast. Can science explain properly what is consciousness and the source of consciousness which is undoubtedly present in all living beings? I can say that you have not carried out proper research. First of all can you say what is the ultimate origin of this universe? Can something just come from nothing? The claim of many reputed scientists is that this entire universe just sprang out of… ultimately nothing. How is this claim rational?
Dear Mr. Prabir Ghosh
All your arguments for the non-existence of God can easily be refuted by highly learned devotees/scholars in the Vaishnava school of thought. Birth, death, old age and disease are there for everyone (death is sure, if not the last two). Do you understand the seriousness of these facts. We are all going to die one day. Then what? After death of a person, if he just ceases to exist-why does it bother you whether he was believing in God or not. Will you be there after your death to prove that you were right. Even if you become famous after your death, what is the use? You just won’t be there to enjoy the fame. You should not feel insulted by this comment because if you are sure of your silly philosophy, why bother about others comments. You and me are both going to die one day. Death is there for everyone:believers of God and non-believers. Can you prove to me how an atheist can be a moral humanist. I will prove to you how he cannot.
Dear Mr. Ghosh
There are many cheats in this world: fake babas, tantriks, sadhus, astrologers, spiritualists and even material scientists. But there are genuine spiritualists having great wisdom and spiritual knowledge, who are actually rational. Do not think that genuine spiritualists are ignorant fools. There is lot of knowledge filtering by the established scientific community. Did you know they are determined to hide evidence that is against Darwinian evolution? All scientists are not honest. First ask yourself whether you are ignorant or in knowledge. You think that this apparent 3 dimensional world appearing to be made of only matter is all in all. God exists and His inconceivable power also exists. Everything that exists emanates from God, the Supreme Personality. Please introspect, be broad-minded. Else you shall be sorry at the end of your life.
Contact me at polytope4d-freak@yahoo.co.in if you have substantial arguments to defend your arguments. Else I shall assume you accept defeat.
You may write challengingly, and use any tone. I don’t mind.
Prototype4d:
Your comments have been echoed by numerous people, but they do not hold water. Please visit http://wiki.ironchariots.org/index.php?title=Main_Page
This has explanations for every kind of defensive reactions to atheists.
Dear “guest”
All those arguments/explanations are absolutely baseless. Even I can say that those comments do not hold any water. Just by systematic logical argument no one can “prove” the existence nor “disprove” the existence of God, but one can certainly get reasonable and clear-cut pointers towards the existence of God. Has science proved that the universe began from “gravitational singularity”? It is mathematically indescribable and physically unrealizable. Scientists also have faith that there was such a singularity. So you tell me, where did the “singularity” come from? Then we shall discuss about God. So the gross material scientists also have faith and they accuse religionists of depending on faith! At this point the hapless material scientists stand convicted of the same unforgivable intellectual crime that they have accused the saints and mystics of committing – making physically unverifiable supernatural claims. There are methods of enquiry transcending the physical methods which the material scientists are unaware of. Highly reasonable faith is required in any field of knowledge, even in material science.
Dear Mr Ghosh
Enough of this nonsense. Ask yourself, are you truly, within your heart, happy and satisfied with your life? Do you think you have the solution to all of your miseries. You certainly have miseries to face and even if you think you are perfectly happy now, be warned that death is right around the corner, Sooner or later we all have to DIE. At the time of death will your atheistic philosophy help you / save you. Please introspect.
In the Times of India of Week 35, 2012, Shri Kamal Nath, Minister of Urban Development has been quoted as seeking/suggesting the regularisation of religious structures on encroached public land. You will agree this is going to send dangerous messages to the people and is highly prejudiced. Most religious entities are being operated privately and in fact are ‘private trusts’. When a citizen of the country cannot encroach to build say a home for him and his family illegally how can religious structures built by citizens be given a free run. Perhaps your Society is the best forum and can help the people by taking up this issue at the earnest and immediately for it might be too late. Thank you.
Dear
Sir I strongly believe that there is no GOD and no supernatural things and phenomena . I need to join with your great mission so that people could come out of all superstions. I had no belief pf god , but your writins highly motivated me. Last of all I have idea, that I need to share you . Hope you will allow me to meet you.
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Mr Ghosh,
In the Times of India of Week 35, 2012, Shri Kamal Nath, Minister of Urban Development has been quoted as seeking/suggesting the regularisation of religious structures encroaching public land. You will agree this is going to send dangerous messages to the people and is highly prejudiced. Most religious entities are being operated privately and in fact are ‘private trusts’. When a citizen of the country cannot encroach to build say a home for himself and his family illegally, how can religious structures built by citizens be given a free run.
Perhaps your Society is the best forum and can help the people by taking up this issue at the earnest and immediately for it might be too late.
Thank you.
HS.
To polytope4d,
With all ur “GOD GIVEN” knowledge, please prove, and I repeat, PROVE the existence of GOD.
to POLYTOPE-4D
you talk baseless and you are a absolutely mad with full of cowdung knowledge in your mind
পূজনীয় প্রবির ঘোষ,
মহাশয় আমি প্রথম এই রাস্তার দরজার কথা শুনলাম, জানি না এর আরম্ভ ও সমাপ্তি কোথায় কিন্তু এই বিষয় জানার আগ্রহি বা আলোচনা সভায় উপস্থিত থেকে এই যুক্তি শ্রবণের অধিকারী হতে চাই একটু সাহায্য করবেন,
আশা রাখছি………………।
to POLYTOPE-4D
you talk baseless and you are a absolutely mad with full of cowdung knowledge in your mind
To saswato,
Oh, thank you very much, Did you know that cowdung is pure? You have better knowledge, right? Just wait for you death. then we’ll see.
To ani.jkd
It seems you are frustrated with material life! Just wait till you die, there will be proof. There WILL be proof. But before that it is neither possible to prove the existence, nor the non-existence of God, because God is beyond material science. It is said in our Vedic scripture, that every materialistic, and atheistic person repents bitterly at the time of his death that his life has been utterly useless and wasted. Do you want to feel like that? Start introspecting today. And don/t put up silly challenges without having a proper conception of God. First you DEFINE what you mean by God.
Dear ani.jkd, do not be offended. Try to understand by logical reasoning that if I succeed in proving the existence of God by material logic/ wordly logic, it would mean material logic would be greatr than God! Try to understand your own origin and the origin of all tat exists. What is the ultimate source? I have splashed mud on Mr. Ghosh because he has already crossed all limits of insincerity. I’m sorry.
Yes, Satya Sai baba is a FRAUD. Agreed. Full marks to you. That does not mean God does not exist. God has His (why He? He is a principle, gender is a principle: it is not at all like the males with material bodies in this temporary, material world) own true and factual existence. Facts are proved at the time of death. Im sorry, but very little can be proved for a person before his death.Big, bold headings at the the home page of your website does not mean you think rationally. “Atheist but Moral” is a fraud philosophy because one can act ‘morally’ for some time, but eventually one thinks, “Why not sin secretly? Anyway there is nothing called as sin or virtue. After death there is no existence, no God to punish us, no life after death. We just become zero. Our existence is wiped out. Everyone becomes zero after death. Why stay away from the pleasures of life? Let us indulge. we can’t enjoy after death.” Be certain that if the minds of “Moral atheists” are examined, these thoughts shall be found. Hence AN ATHEIST CANNOT BE MORAL.
Can anyone defeat this? This is sane logic. What do you say, Mr. Ghosh? Contact me and defeat me.
All rationalists, especially Mr. Prabir Ghosh, please go through:
http://hansadutta.com/krsnaworld/2011/07/04/the-challenge/
(all 8 pages)and thenput forward your arguments.
Dr. Abraham Kovoor was trying to put a challenge like you but he was defeated.
Why doesn’t anyone reply? Are you concocting a suitable reply. There is still time. Accept the power of God, who is infallible (but you don’t like this idea of God, so you won’t do it probably). There are many sites which have crushed your nonsense philosophy to pieces, but i can’t tell you which, lest you try to do something against them, because i am sure you can’t be humanist or moral.
dear Polytope4d … Are you a bengalee ? Then I shall talk in bengali…
Sobai chup kore ache, karon dear apnar dewa link ti khulle kichui beroche na … Aar ei God God God kore jawa ektu bandho korben doya kore, nijer baktobyo pesh korar janya God God OR Jukti Jukti konotar i bishes proyojon ache bole mone korchi na… Ami byaktigato bhabe anek kaaj somporke Ghosh babu r theke differ kori abar anek anek bishoye tar sathe sabsamay achi, thakbo o jotodin amr mone sei jukti/biswas ta thakbe… Amar mone hoi karo dharona samporke tarko korar samay take chhoto/ heyo na kore o katha bola jay dear…
God somporke jeata bolte pari seta hoche…
Manus jara biswas kore God ache, tara nitanto i durbol moner manus / poristhitir chaap e dome jawa manus / abhab anoton e durnitee grosto manus der kobole pore jawa kichu manus / khub kusholi kintoo aakhere boka kichu baba taba der mato jara gorib durbol moner sei manus der shoshon kore chole …
Amar moner / mostisker eta driho biswas / jukti je God bole je khor kuto mati dye toiri murti / mone mone banano ekta praan ke manus biswas kore, seta nichhok ekta ateebo sundar creature, jar modhye sab kichhu i valo, jano parosh pathar, jar chhoa te, jar aradhana te sab kichu bhalo hoye jai, aar jadi valo na hoi, seta i naki valo, karon tini sob naki bojhen sab janen, sab korte paren… Tar modhyekar ei sundar ke chawa, sei sundar ke pawar lobh / ichha – er modhye i lukie ache God ke biswas korar juktikota sei manus der …
Jader modhye eshob nei, tara manen na serom kichu khomotaban HE/SHE GOD ke… Bepar ta erokm i simple..
Aar Ghosh babu jibito thakte naam korte parben ki na, aar Jibon ekta i, naam dham kore katak, Thhakur Thhakur God God kore katale dosh kiser – ei sob kono jukti i na, ei sob khub i Adurodrishti samponno manus i bolte pare apnar moto … Karon jakhon Ganesha r naam kore koek lakhkho lt milk nasto hoi ba kichu, nebar mala poriye God er naam niye naki jaundice sarano hoi – eisab jakhon byabsar porjaye neme esche sadharon lok jon der loot korte, bujruki korte, takhn eder k hotate aboshyoi Juktibaad / Bigyan proyojon…
God er pokkhe / bipokkhe ashonkho hajaro katha sobai i sunte pabe.. Asha kori tar reason tao bojhate perechi.. aar kano GHosh babu ke proyojon, kano Jukti baad er proyojon God er sathe sathe seta o bojhate perechi… The fact is Juktibaad eka eka benche thakte pare, Juktibaad can Define God-ship.. but God-ship never define JUktibaad… ekhane i jeet Juktir…
Well I am a PhD student of Physics from ISI Cal.. Apni annk katha totha likhechen dekhchi singularity niye, arektu define korben thik ki bolte chaichen? Amr degree ta bollam tar karon ei je apni kichu bolle ami seta bojhar khomota ektu adhtu rakhi, seta jananor janya.. ektu jodi bojha singularity r bepar tar sathe God exists er somporko ta .. Please ..
Dear Mr. Kaushik
I cannot understand bengali, sorry. But only two sentences:
1) Tomar porichay ki?
2) Jiver svarupa haya Krishner nitya das.
Hare Krishna!
The Link had a problem, it will open now.
j ishwar abiskar koreche se murka
j ishwarer procher kore se bodmais r
j ishwarer puja kore se barbar
Dear Payel
Stop talking nonsense. SOmeone translated your words for me.
Sense is:
One who does not accept God’s supremacy–he/she’s a fool.
One who does not preach the glories of God–he/she’s a rogue.
One who does not worship the Supreme Lord, his/her life is wasted.
Even after a fortnight, my comment is still awaiting moderation. Is censorship the new face of the so-called rationalists, sceptics, humanists, etc.? Anyone can Google Dr. Abraham Kovoor’s challenge and Hansadutta dasa’s response.
Hare Krishna.